{"id":9556,"date":"2013-02-17T09:30:06","date_gmt":"2013-02-17T09:30:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=9556"},"modified":"2014-01-17T07:33:39","modified_gmt":"2014-01-17T07:33:39","slug":"linking-numbers-and-twist-and-writhe-components-for-two-extended-porphyrins","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=9556","title":{"rendered":"Linking numbers, and twist and writhe components for two extended porphyrins."},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kcite-section\" kcite-section-id=\"9556\">\n<p>My last comment as\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=9512&amp;cpage=1#comment-35668\" target=\"_blank\">appended to the previous post<\/a>\u00a0promised to analyse two so-called extended porphyrins for their topological descriptors. I start with the\u00a0C\u00e3lug\u00e3reanu\/<a href=\"http:\/\/links.jstor.org\/sici?sici=0027-8424%28197104%2968%3A4%3C815%3ATWNOAS%3E2.0.CO%3B2-2\" target=\"_blank\">Fuller<\/a> theorem\u00a0 which decomposes the topology of a space curve into two components, its twist (Tw) and its writhe (Wr, this latter being the extent to which coiling of the central curve has relieved local twisting) and establishes a topological invariant called the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Linking_number\" target=\"_blank\">linking number<\/a><span id=\"cite_ITEM-9556-0\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-9556-0\">[1]<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0Lk = Tw + Wr\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<table class=\"aligncenter\" border=\"0\" align=\"center\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<div id=\"attachment_9558\" style=\"width: 220px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9558\" class=\"size-full wp-image-9558\" onclick=\"jmolInitialize('..\/Jmol\/','JmolAppletSigned.jar');jmolSetAppletColor('white');jmolApplet([450,450],'load wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/HIYTAL.mol;');\" alt=\"Click for  3D.\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/hiytal.jpg\" width=\"210\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-9558\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">HIYTAL. Click for 3D.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<td>\n<div id=\"attachment_9559\" style=\"width: 220px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9559\" class=\"size-full wp-image-9559\" onclick=\"jmolInitialize('..\/Jmol\/','JmolAppletSigned.jar');jmolSetAppletColor('white');jmolApplet([450,450],'load wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/SELQUW.mol;');\" alt=\"SELQUW. Click for  3D.\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/selquw.jpg\" width=\"210\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-9559\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">SELQUW. Click for 3D.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Visual inspection of the models above (I really do encourage you to click on the images to load the 3D coordinates) reveals that HIYTAL<span id=\"cite_ITEM-9556-1\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-9556-1\">[2]<\/a><\/span> has a major coil that forms one and a half helical turns in a clockwise direction, and a loop connecting the ends of the coil which forms a half-helical turn in an anti-clockwise direction. SELQUW<span id=\"cite_ITEM-9556-2\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-9556-2\">[3]<\/a><\/span>\u00a0has a major coil comprising one and half helical turns in an anti-clockwise direction and a connecting loop which also coils anti-clockwise. So the former sustains a total of <strong>one<\/strong>\u00a0full (clockwise) helical turn and the latter <strong>two<\/strong>\u00a0full (anti-clockwise) helical turns.<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Axial_chirality\" target=\"_blank\">nomenclature for helical molecules<\/a> includes a chiral descriptor P (for a positive helical turn) and M (for a negative helical turn). What such a descriptor does not do is quantify the total number of helices describing the topology. So I suggest we use instead the linking number Lk. Instead of P and M, we have positive and negative integers (in units of 2\u03c0) providing this quantitative information.<\/p>\n<p>The linking number analysis for these two molecules comes out as below.<sup>\u2021<\/sup> I have multiplied the linking number unit from 2\u03c0 to 1\u03c0 for a reason that I will explain shortly:<\/p>\n<table class=\"aligncenter\" border=\"1\" align=\"center\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\u00a0<\/td>\n<td>\u03c0-electrons<\/td>\n<td>Lk<\/td>\n<td>Tw<\/td>\n<td>Wr<\/td>\n<td>\u0394<sub>r<\/sub> (meso)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>SELQUW<\/td>\n<td>56=4n<\/td>\n<td>-4<\/td>\n<td>-1.34\u00a0<\/td>\n<td>-2.66<\/td>\n<td>0.048<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>HIYTAL<\/td>\n<td>62=4n+2<\/td>\n<td>+2\u00a0<\/td>\n<td>+0.46<\/td>\n<td>+1.54<\/td>\n<td>0.045<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>You can see that the linking numbers (and their signs) correspond exactly to the visual analysis of the helical turns above. My reason for including the factor of 2 is that it enables us to make a further link to the H\u00fcckel aromaticity rule:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><span style=\"line-height: 13px;\">Cyclic conjugated systems are<strong> aromatic<\/strong> if they contain 4n+2 \u03c0-electrons and have an even or zero linking number (in units of 1\u03c0).\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li>Cyclic conjugated systems are <strong>aromatic<\/strong> if they contain 4n\u00a0\u03c0-electrons and have an odd linking number (in units of 1\u03c0).\u00a0<\/li>\n<li>Cyclic conjugated systems are <strong>anti-aromatic<\/strong> if they contain 4n \u03c0-electrons and have an even or zero linking number (in units of 1\u03c0).\u00a0<\/li>\n<li>Cyclic conjugated systems are <strong>anti-aromatic<\/strong> if they contain 4n+2 \u03c0-electrons and have an odd linking number (in units of 1\u03c0).\u00a0<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>By these rules, SELQUW contains (by the shortest path) 56 \u03c0-electrons, belongs to the 4n electron rule (n=14) and hence is formally anti-aromatic (rule 3 above). HIYTAL has a path of 62-electrons, belongs to the 4n+2 rule (n=15) and hence is formally aromatic (rule 1 above).\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>For systems with so many (correlated) electrons, it is probably tenuous to make a connection between the bond-length alternation at the meso position and the aromaticity (or lack of it). I comment only that HIYTAL converts more of the coiling into writhing of the central curve than does SELQUW, and this destroys less\u00a0\u03c0-\u03c0 overlap by reducing the overall degree of twisting. I might also speculate that nevertheless a modest degree of twisting may impact upon the intrinsic distortivity of\u00a0\u03c0-electrons in cyclically conjugated systems (such as that in benzene<span id=\"cite_ITEM-9556-3\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-9556-3\">[4]<\/a><\/span>), as noted in this <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=485\" target=\"_blank\">earlier post<\/a>. Such effects may make the interpretation of bond-alternation in such helical systems more difficult.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><sup>\u2021 A program for calculating these components can be found <a href=\"https:\/\/wiki.ch.ic.ac.uk\/wiki\/index.php?title=Mod:link\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>. For a fun-packed journey through linking numbers and the association with valentine cards, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=3492\" target=\"_blank\">go see this post<\/a> here!<\/sup><\/p>\n<h2>References<\/h2>\n    <ol class=\"kcite-bibliography csl-bib-body\"><li id=\"ITEM-9556-0\">S.M. Rappaport, and H.S. Rzepa, \"Intrinsically Chiral Aromaticity. Rules Incorporating Linking Number, Twist, and Writhe for Higher-Twist M\u00f6bius Annulenes\", <i>Journal of the American Chemical Society<\/i>, vol. 130, pp. 7613-7619, 2008. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1021\/ja710438j\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1021\/ja710438j<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"ITEM-9556-1\">S. Shimizu, W. Cho, J. Sessler, H. Shinokubo, and A. Osuka, \"&lt;i&gt;meso&lt;\/i&gt;\u2010Aryl Substituted Rubyrin and Its Higher Homologues: Structural Characterization and Chemical Properties\", <i>Chemistry \u2013 A European Journal<\/i>, vol. 14, pp. 2668-2678, 2008. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1002\/chem.200701909\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1002\/chem.200701909<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"ITEM-9556-2\"><a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/\">https:\/\/doi.org\/<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"ITEM-9556-3\">S. Shaik, A. Shurki, D. Danovich, and P.C. Hiberty, \"A Different Story of \u03c0-DelocalizationThe Distortivity of \u03c0-Electrons and Its Chemical Manifestations\", <i>Chemical Reviews<\/i>, vol. 101, pp. 1501-1540, 2001. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1021\/cr990363l\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1021\/cr990363l<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n<\/div> <!-- kcite-section 9556 -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>My last comment as\u00a0appended to the previous post\u00a0promised to analyse two so-called extended porphyrins for their topological descriptors. I start with the\u00a0C\u00e3lug\u00e3reanu\/Fuller theorem\u00a0 which decomposes the topology of a space curve into two components, its twist (Tw) and its writhe (Wr, this latter being the extent to which coiling of the central curve has relieved [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"activitypub_content_warning":"","activitypub_content_visibility":"","activitypub_max_image_attachments":5,"activitypub_interaction_policy_quote":"anyone","activitypub_status":"","footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[4],"tags":[999,990],"ppma_author":[2661],"class_list":["post-9556","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-interesting-chemistry","tag-conjugated-systems","tag-helical-systems"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Linking numbers, and twist and writhe components for two extended porphyrins. - Henry Rzepa&#039;s Blog<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=9556\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_GB\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Linking numbers, and twist and writhe components for two extended porphyrins. - Henry Rzepa&#039;s Blog\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"My last comment as\u00a0appended to the previous post\u00a0promised to analyse two so-called extended porphyrins for their topological descriptors. 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