{"id":7740,"date":"2012-09-19T14:19:42","date_gmt":"2012-09-19T13:19:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=7740"},"modified":"2012-09-19T14:47:06","modified_gmt":"2012-09-19T13:47:06","slug":"the-direct-approach-is-not-always-the-best-butadiene-plus-dichlorocarbene","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=7740","title":{"rendered":"The direct approach is not always the best: butadiene plus dichlorocarbene"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kcite-section\" kcite-section-id=\"7740\">\n<p>The four-electron thermal cycloaddition (in reverse a cheletropic elimination) of dichlorocarbene to ethene is a classic example of a forbidden pericyclic process <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=6977\" target=\"_blank\">taking a roundabout route<\/a> to avoid directly violating the Woodward-Hoffmann rules. However, a thermal six-electron process normally does take the direct route, as in for example the Diels-Alder cycloaddition\u00a0as Houk and co have recently showed using molecular dynamics<span id=\"cite_ITEM-7740-0\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-7740-0\">[1]<\/a><\/span>. So can one contrive a six-electron cycloaddition involving dichlorocarbene?<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-7743\" title=\"carbene-b\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/carbene-b.svg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Surely, it should now form the two new C-C bonds at the same time (synchronously)? Well, here comes a <a href=\"http:\/\/hdl.handle.net\/10042\/20328\" target=\"_blank\">\u03c9B97XD\/6-311G(d,p)\/SCRF=dichloromethane<\/a> intrinsic reaction coordinate calculation:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_7745\" style=\"width: 331px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7745\" class=\" wp-image-7745 \" title=\"butadiene+carbene\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/butadiene+carbene.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"321\" height=\"322\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-7745\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Butadiene + dichlorocarbene.<\/p><\/div>\n<ol>\n<li>The reaction starts at IRC -5,\u00a0<\/li>\n<li>and proceeds with only a small barrier to the transition state (IRC =0.0)\u00a0<\/li>\n<li>At IRC +4, the potential flattens out and the gradients drop, with formation of the first C-C bond completed. But the gradients do not quite go to zero, which would have implied the formation of a discrete intermediate such as:<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-7749\" title=\"carbene1\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/carbene1.svg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/li>\n<li>The concerted reaction continues and by IRC ~ +11, the two chlorine atoms now exhibit quite different C-Cl lengths. The one that is orthogonal to the second forming C-C bond is normal (1.815&Aring;), whereas the one antiperiplanar to the C-C bond is 1.92&Aring;. There are some interesting stereoelectronic alignments involved.<\/li>\n<li>Coincidentally perhaps, but these phenomena of an intermediate almost forming in a system containing a CCl<sub>2<\/sub> group with concomitant lengthening of one C-Cl bond compared to the other, was also observed <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=7495&amp;cpage=1#comment-10361\" target=\"_blank\">in my IRC for the addition of thiolate to a dichlorobuteneone<\/a>. For that system, \u00a0Dan Singleton&#8217;s work had shown that molecular dynamics is necessary to obtain a more complete picture, and that may well be also true for the example here! \u00a0Perhaps Ken Houk might give it a go!<\/li>\n<li>The second C-C bond then completes at around IRC +16.\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-7746\" title=\"butadiene+carbene\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/butadiene+carbene.svg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-7747\" title=\"butadiene+carbeneg\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/butadiene+carbeneg.svg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Well, this shows that a reaction only modestly removed from the classical six-electron Diels-Alder can change character dramatically from the synchrony expected of the latter. I am hunting for a simple explanation of this phenomenon, but perhaps participation of the C-Cl bonds makes this different from a simple cycloaddition. Or possibly, the explanation will only properly emerge when the molecular dynamics is studied?<\/p>\n<h2>References<\/h2>\n    <ol class=\"kcite-bibliography csl-bib-body\"><li id=\"ITEM-7740-0\">K. Black, P. Liu, L. Xu, C. Doubleday, and K.N. Houk, \"Dynamics, transition states, and timing of bond formation in Diels\u2013Alder reactions\", <i>Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences<\/i>, vol. 109, pp. 12860-12865, 2012. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1073\/pnas.1209316109\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1073\/pnas.1209316109<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n<\/div> <!-- kcite-section 7740 -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The four-electron thermal cycloaddition (in reverse a cheletropic elimination) of dichlorocarbene to ethene is a classic example of a forbidden pericyclic process taking a roundabout route to avoid directly violating the Woodward-Hoffmann rules. 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