{"id":4814,"date":"2011-09-03T08:50:37","date_gmt":"2011-09-03T08:50:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=4814"},"modified":"2013-12-10T11:48:58","modified_gmt":"2013-12-10T11:48:58","slug":"mindless-chemistry-or-creative-science","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=4814","title":{"rendered":"Mindless chemistry or creative science?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kcite-section\" kcite-section-id=\"4814\">\n<p>The (hopefully tongue-in-cheek) title <em>Mindless chemistry <\/em>was given to an article reporting<span id=\"cite_ITEM-4814-0\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-4814-0\">[1]<\/a><\/span>  an automated stochastic search procedure for locating all possible minima with a given composition using high-level quantum mechanical calculations. &#8220;Many new structures, often with nonintuitive geometries, were found&#8221;. Well, another approach is to follow unexpected hunches. One such was described in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=4751\" target=\"_blank\">previous post<\/a>, and here I follow it to one logical conclusion.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_4817\" style=\"width: 410px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/fe2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4817\" class=\"size-full wp-image-4817\" title=\"fe2\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/fe2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4817\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">One structure leads to another<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The train of thought started with the recent\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/10.1002\/chem.201100693\/full\" target=\"_blank\">speculation upon a zwitterionic intermediate<\/a> in the photolysis of a dimethyl-pyrone. Closure of this is likely to require a very low barrier, and this leads to a bicyclic species, which could be written as a carbene. One then asks if carbon dioxide itself could be so represented? If so, could that carbene be stabilised with a metal, as below? A reality check, as noted in the earlier post, is that a similar complex with iron tetracarbonyl is known, and appears to be stable.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_4816\" style=\"width: 410px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/FeCO2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4816\" class=\"size-full wp-image-4816\" title=\"FeCO2\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/FeCO2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"89\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4816\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sequestration of carbon dioxide?<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Enter quantum mechanics, which will tell us exactly how stable. Firstly, the spin state of the complex has to be determined, and it turns out the singlet (low spin) is lower than either the triplet (medium spin) or quintet (high spin) states. It took around five minutes (<a href=\"http:\/\/hdl.handle.net\/10042\/to-9356\" target=\"_blank\">\u03c9B97XD\/6-311G(d)<\/a> ) to establish that the free energy of the reaction between carbon dioxide and iron tetra carbonyl is endothermic in free energy by ~100 kcal\/mol. So no sequestration of CO<sub>2<\/sub> by iron carbonyl then!<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<div id=\"attachment_4824\" style=\"width: 193px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4824\" class=\"size-full wp-image-4824  \" title=\"Fe\" onclick=\"jmolInitialize('..\/Jmol\/',true);jmolSetAppletColor('white');jmolApplet([600,600],'load wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/Fe.mol;');\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/Fe.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"183\" height=\"184\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-4824\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Iron tetra carbonyl-carbon dioxide complex. Click for 3D<\/p><\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<p>As a scientist, I always find it fascinating how one can jump from one topic to a completely different one in just a few steps. But one always needs reality checks in doing so! Perhaps automated mindless searches (bounded by quantum mechanical reality checks) will perhaps one day come up with something really important. All us humans have to do is recognise this when it happens.<\/p>\n<h2>References<\/h2>\n    <ol class=\"kcite-bibliography csl-bib-body\"><li id=\"ITEM-4814-0\">P.P. Bera, K.W. Sattelmeyer, M. Saunders, H.F. Schaefer, and P.V.R. Schleyer, \"Mindless Chemistry\", <i>The Journal of Physical Chemistry A<\/i>, vol. 110, pp. 4287-4290, 2006. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1021\/jp057107z\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1021\/jp057107z<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n<\/div> <!-- kcite-section 4814 -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The (hopefully tongue-in-cheek) title Mindless chemistry was given to an article reporting an automated stochastic search procedure for locating all possible minima with a given composition using high-level quantum mechanical calculations. &#8220;Many new structures, often with nonintuitive geometries, were found&#8221;. Well, another approach is to follow unexpected hunches. 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