{"id":4038,"date":"2011-05-17T14:09:04","date_gmt":"2011-05-17T14:09:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=4038"},"modified":"2011-11-29T15:08:43","modified_gmt":"2011-11-29T15:08:43","slug":"updating-a-worked-problem-in-conformational-analysis-part-2-an-answer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=4038","title":{"rendered":"Updating a worked problem in conformational analysis. Part 2: an answer."},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kcite-section\" kcite-section-id=\"4038\">\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=4030\" target=\"_blank\">previous post<\/a> set out a problem in conformational analysis. Here is my take, which includes an NCI (non-covalent interaction) display as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=2230\" target=\"_blank\">discussed in another post<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/problem_sheet_answer42.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4058\" title=\"problem_sheet_answer4\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/problem_sheet_answer42.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"503\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/problem_sheet_answer42.jpg 1408w, https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/problem_sheet_answer42-610x1024.jpg 610w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The lowest energies of the four diastereomers <strong>A-D<\/strong>, each in two conformations (<strong>1\/2<\/strong>) were calculated at the \u03c9B97D\/6-311G(d,p)\/SCRF=ethanol level, and are shown here relative to <strong>A1<\/strong> (kcal\/mol) as free energies. The values of \u0394\u0394G of each pair (relative to the lower energy conformation) are converted to relative concentrations using \u0394\u0394G = -RT <em>Ln<\/em> K and these are shown in blue. Those conformations where a C-H bond is aligned anti-periplanar (<em>app<\/em>) with the C-NMe<sub>3<\/sub> bond are highlighted in red. Various aspects of the questions posed include:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Those conformations with two <em>app<\/em> combinations are likely to result in a mixture of two alkenes <strong>E<\/strong> and <strong>F<\/strong> (shown in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=4030\" target=\"_blank\">previous post<\/a>), and likewise those with only one <em>app<\/em> alignment will give a single alkene.<\/li>\n<li>The concentration of the neomenthyl system (C) favours the conformer <strong>C1<\/strong>, which is also the one with <em>app<\/em> allignments. This will react readily. The menthyl system <strong>A<\/strong> has only a low relative concentration of <strong>A2<\/strong>, and so will react slowly. The experiments show the rate is about 10 times less than <strong>C<\/strong>, whereas the ratio of relative concentrations is larger. This may be due to difference in the transition state for the elimination, or possibly effects due to the presence of a counterion.<\/li>\n<li>The concentration of <strong>D1<\/strong> is the lowest of the four pairs of conformational isomers. This might be due to buttressing, in which the relative proximity of the NMe<sub>3<\/sub> and iPr groups forces the former into closer proximity with the axial methyl than is found in <strong>A2<\/strong>, the other conformer with an unfavourable 1,3-diaxial interaction.<\/li>\n<li>The relative energies of most of the pairs of combinations of conformers\/diasteromers are interesting, and I leave it to you to play with them and draw conclusions (or detect mysteries).<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>I thought I would finish by adding an <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=2230\" target=\"_blank\">NCI analysis<\/a> using a wavefunction computed for \u03c9B97D\/6-31G(d,p)\/SCRF=ethanol. The green surfaces are indicative of regions where <strong><em>non-covalent interactions<\/em><\/strong> are occurring (which include electrostatic and van der Waals effects). The colour scheme is set to blue(ish) to indicate more attractive NCIs (such as strong hydrogen bonds),\u00a0green to indicate weak(ish) NCIs, with a red or orange tinge indicating a repulsive \u00a0NCI.<\/p>\n<table border=\"1\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><div id=\"attachment_4047\" style=\"width: 210px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4047\" class=\"size-full wp-image-4047\" title=\"A2-RRS\" onclick=\"jmolInitialize('..\/Jmol\/',true);jmolSetAppletColor('goldenrod');jmolApplet([600,600],'load wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/A2-RRS.xyz;isosurface wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/A2-RRS.jvxl colorscheme translucent bgyor;');\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/A2-RRS.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"200\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-4047\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A2 diaxial. Click for 3D.<\/p><\/div><\/td>\n<td><div id=\"attachment_4060\" style=\"width: 210px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4060\" class=\"size-full wp-image-4060\" title=\"B2-SRS\" onclick=\"jmolInitialize('..\/Jmol\/',true);jmolSetAppletColor('goldenrod');jmolApplet([600,600],'load wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/B2-SRS.xyz;isosurface wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/B2-SRS.jvxl colorscheme translucent bgyor;');\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/B2-SRS.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"200\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-4060\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">B2 Axial-equatorial. click for 3D.<\/p><\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><div id=\"attachment_4049\" style=\"width: 210px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4049\" class=\"size-full wp-image-4049\" title=\"A1-RRS\" onclick=\"jmolInitialize('..\/Jmol\/',true);jmolSetAppletColor('goldenrod');jmolApplet([600,600],'load wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/A1-RRS.xyz;isosurface wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/A1-RRS.jvxl colorscheme translucent bgyor;');\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/A1-RRS.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"200\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-4049\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A1. Di-equatorial. Click for 3D.<\/p><\/div><\/td>\n<td><div id=\"attachment_4061\" style=\"width: 210px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4061\" class=\"size-full wp-image-4061\" title=\"B1-SRS\" onclick=\"jmolInitialize('..\/Jmol\/',true);jmolSetAppletColor('goldenrod');jmolApplet([600,600],'load wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/B1-SRS.xyz;isosurface wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/B1-SRS.jvxl colorscheme translucent bgyor;');\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/B1-SRS.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"200\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-4061\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">B1.Di-equatorial. click for 3D.<\/p><\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><div id=\"attachment_4063\" style=\"width: 210px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4063\" class=\"size-full wp-image-4063\" title=\"C2-SRR\" onclick=\"jmolInitialize('..\/Jmol\/',true);jmolSetAppletColor('goldenrod');jmolApplet([600,600],'load wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/C2-SRR.xyz;isosurface wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/C2-SRR.jvxl colorscheme translucent bgyor;');\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/C2-SRR.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"200\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-4063\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">C2. Equatorial-axial. Click for 3D.<\/p><\/div><\/td>\n<td><div id=\"attachment_4064\" style=\"width: 210px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4064\" class=\"size-full wp-image-4064\" title=\"D2-SSS\" onclick=\"jmolInitialize('..\/Jmol\/',true);jmolSetAppletColor('goldenrod');jmolApplet([600,600],'load wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/D2-SSS.xyz;isosurface wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/D2-SSS.jvxl colorscheme translucent bgyor;');\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/D2-SSS.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"200\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-4064\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">D2. Equatorial-axial. Click for 3D.<\/p><\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><div id=\"attachment_4066\" style=\"width: 210px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4066\" class=\"size-full wp-image-4066\" title=\"C1-SRR\" onclick=\"jmolInitialize('..\/Jmol\/',true);jmolSetAppletColor('goldenrod');jmolApplet([600,600],'load wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/C1-SRR.xyz;isosurface wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/C1-SRR.jvxl colorscheme translucent bgyor;');\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/C1-SRR.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"200\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-4066\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">C1 SRR. Axial-equatorial. Click for 3D.<\/p><\/div><\/td>\n<td><div id=\"attachment_4067\" style=\"width: 210px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4067\" class=\"size-full wp-image-4067\" title=\"D1-SSS\" onclick=\"jmolInitialize('..\/Jmol\/',true);jmolSetAppletColor('goldenrod');jmolApplet([600,600],'load wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/D1-SSS.xyz;isosurface wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/D1-SSS.jvxl colorscheme translucent bgyor;');\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/D1-SSS.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"200\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-4067\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">D1 SSS. Axial-equatorial. Click for 3D.<\/p><\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Amongst the many features visible in these plots is the strong 1,3-diaxial NCIs seen for <strong>A2<\/strong> and particularly\u00a0<strong>D1<\/strong> and the conformational variability in the NCI between the iPr and NMe<sub>3<\/sub> groups.<\/p>\n<!-- kcite active, but no citations found -->\n<\/div> <!-- kcite-section 4038 -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The previous post set out a problem in conformational analysis. Here is my take, which includes an NCI (non-covalent interaction) display as discussed in another post. 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