{"id":24027,"date":"2021-07-11T09:54:36","date_gmt":"2021-07-11T08:54:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=24027"},"modified":"2021-07-21T14:29:16","modified_gmt":"2021-07-21T13:29:16","slug":"molecules-with-very-large-dipole-moments-cyclopropenium-acetylide","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=24027","title":{"rendered":"Molecules with very large dipole moments: cyclopropenium acetylide"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kcite-section\" kcite-section-id=\"24027\">\n<p>Occasionally, someone comments about an old post here, asking a question. Such was the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=22996&amp;cpage=1#comment-555628\">case here<\/a>, when a question about the dipole moment of cyclopropenylidene arose. It turned out to be 3.5D, but this question sparked a thought about the related molecule below.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/C5H2.svg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-24028\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/C5H2.svg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Of the two resonance forms show above, the one on the left is a zwitterion resulting in the formation of an aromatic cyclopropenium ring, with the charge balanced by the acetylide anion.<sup>&Dagger;<\/sup> The calculated structure (\u03c9B97XD\/Def2-TZVPP\/SCRF=chloroform, Data DOI <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.14469\/hpc\/8399\">10.14469\/hpc\/8399<\/a> ) shows a short terminal CC bond which indicates a significant degree of delocalisation of the three membered ring.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_24031\" style=\"width: 460px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-24031\" onclick=\"jmolApplet([450,450],'load wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/checkpoint_10079470_esp.xyz;isosurface color orange yellow wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/checkpoint_10079470_esp.jvxl translucent;zoom 80;spin 3;','c1');\" class=\"size-large wp-image-24031\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/C5H5-esp-1024x690.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"303\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/C5H5-esp-1024x690.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/C5H5-esp-300x202.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/C5H5-esp-768x518.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/C5H5-esp-1536x1035.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/C5H5-esp.jpg 1573w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-24031\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Molecular electrostatic potential<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The molecular electrostatic potential (above) agrees with a large dipole moment of 11.9D. This is certainly up there with the molecule suggested in 2016 as being the most polar molecule neutral compound synthesised<span id=\"cite_ITEM-24027-0\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-24027-0\">[1]<\/a><\/span> and is a fair bit smaller than that candidate. A brief search of the literature (Scifinder) suggest that the molecule is currently unknown. Anybody fancy making it?<\/p>\n<p>The Data DOI by the way gives you access to the other outputs from the calculation, which would include the molecular orbitals and the molecular vibrations which I have not shown here.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><sup>&Dagger;<\/sup> Such zwitterions are known as unstable intermediates. See e.g. <span id=\"cite_ITEM-24027-1\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-24027-1\">[2]<\/a><\/span> for examples.<\/p>\n<h2>References<\/h2>\n    <ol class=\"kcite-bibliography csl-bib-body\"><li id=\"ITEM-24027-0\">J. Wudarczyk, G. Papamokos, V. Margaritis, D. Schollmeyer, F. Hinkel, M. Baumgarten, G. Floudas, and K. M\u00fcllen, \"Hexasubstituted Benzenes with Ultrastrong Dipole Moments\", <i>Angewandte Chemie International Edition<\/i>, vol. 55, pp. 3220-3223, 2016. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1002\/anie.201508249\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1002\/anie.201508249<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"ITEM-24027-1\">H.S. Rzepa, \"Routes involving no free C\n                    &lt;sub&gt;2&lt;\/sub&gt;\n                    in a DFT-computed mechanistic model for the reported room-temperature chemical synthesis of C\n                    &lt;sub&gt;2&lt;\/sub&gt;\", <i>Physical Chemistry Chemical Physics<\/i>, vol. 23, pp. 12630-12636, 2021. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1039\/d1cp02056k\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1039\/d1cp02056k<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n<\/div> <!-- kcite-section 24027 -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Occasionally, someone comments about an old post here, asking a question. Such was the case here, when a question about the dipole moment of cyclopropenylidene arose. 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