{"id":23187,"date":"2021-01-01T12:41:13","date_gmt":"2021-01-01T12:41:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=23187"},"modified":"2023-04-12T11:11:49","modified_gmt":"2023-04-12T10:11:49","slug":"dispersion-attraction-effects-on-the-computed-geometry-of-a-leminscular-dodecaporphrin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=23187","title":{"rendered":"Dispersion attraction effects on the computed geometry of a leminscular dodecaporphyrin."},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kcite-section\" kcite-section-id=\"23187\">\n<p>In the previous post, I showed the geometries of three large cyclic porphyrins, as part of an article<span id=\"cite_ITEM-23187-0\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-23187-0\">[1]<\/a><\/span> on exploring the aromaticity of large 4n+2 cyclic rings. One of them had been induced into a &#8220;figure-eight&#8221; or lemniscular conformation, as shown below.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_23150\" style=\"width: 460px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-23150\" onclick=\"jmolApplet([450,450],'load wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/c-P12b12_T6f.mol;spin 3;','c3');\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/c-P12b12_T6f.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"226\" class=\"size-large wp-image-23150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/c-P12b12_T6f.jpg 1868w, https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/c-P12b12_T6f-300x151.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/c-P12b12_T6f-1024x515.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/c-P12b12_T6f-768x386.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/c-P12b12_T6f-1536x772.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-23150\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">c-P12[b12]_T6f optimised with LC-\u03c9hPBE<\/p><\/div>\n<div id=\"attachment_23150\" style=\"width: 460px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-23150\" onclick=\"jmolApplet([450,450],'load wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/c-P12b12_T6f-pm6.mol;spin 3;','c6');\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/c-P12b12_T6f.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"226\" class=\"size-large wp-image-23150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/c-P12b12_T6f.jpg 1868w, https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/c-P12b12_T6f-300x151.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/c-P12b12_T6f-1024x515.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/c-P12b12_T6f-768x386.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/c-P12b12_T6f-1536x772.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-23150\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">c-P12[b12]_T6f optimised with PM6<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Any initial inspection of the geometries of these systems suggests they have a high level of symmetry, and the molecule above does have the potential for D<sub>2<\/sub> symmetry, typical of such leminscates.<span id=\"cite_ITEM-23187-1\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-23187-1\">[2]<\/a><\/span> The coordinates provided as part of the article however<span id=\"cite_ITEM-23187-0\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-23187-0\">[1]<\/a><\/span> had no symmetry and in the previous post, I asked myself if the coordinates could be symmetrised. That proved possible for the first two molecules shown, and here I ask myself it it can be done for the molecule shown above. My method for symmetrising was to use the PM7 semi-empirical method.<span id=\"cite_ITEM-23187-2\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-23187-2\">[3]<\/a><\/span> For the first time in the PM-series, this latest extension includes a Grimme-style dispersion attraction correction, one that grows in magnitude with the size of the molecule. Since this is a large molecule (720) atoms, dispersion might well have an important role to play. The coordinates provided<span id=\"cite_ITEM-23187-0\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-23187-0\">[1]<\/a><\/span> were obtained using the LC-\u03c9hPBE\/6-31G* method, a functional which in its latest form does not include a built-in dispersion term, although one can be added to the earlier LC-\u03c9PBE version of the functional. We may presume that the calculation used to obtain the coordinates shown above does not include such a dispersion term.<\/p>\n<p>Here is the PM7 optimised version. Firstly, it has C<sub>2<\/sub>-symmetry only and not the higher D<sub>2<\/sub>. The reason is that the four porphyrin rings at the point of the ring crossover, which in the original version show no ring-ring stacking, now indeed show stacking of a pair of porphyrin rings when dispersion is included in the calculation.<br \/>\n<div id=\"attachment_23192\" style=\"width: 460px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-23192\" onclick=\"jmolApplet([450,450],'load wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/c-P12b12_T6f-new.mol;spin 3;','c4');\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/mobius-1024x553.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"243\" class=\"size-large wp-image-23192\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/mobius-1024x553.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/mobius-300x162.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/mobius-768x415.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/mobius-1536x830.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/mobius-2048x1106.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-23192\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">c-P12b12_T6f optimized with PM7<\/p><\/div><br \/>\nWhether such stacking, which does significantly perturb the overall geometry has any impact on the inferred aromaticity, remains to be established. But it reinforces the conclusion that when dealing with large molecules, it is absolutely essential to include a good quality dispersion correction, otherwise the geometries so obtained may differ significantly from reality.<\/p>\n<h2>References<\/h2>\n    <ol class=\"kcite-bibliography csl-bib-body\"><li id=\"ITEM-23187-0\">M. Rickhaus, M. Jirasek, L. Tejerina, H. Gotfredsen, M.D. Peeks, R. Haver, H. Jiang, T.D.W. Claridge, and H.L. Anderson, \"Global aromaticity at the nanoscale\", <i>Nature Chemistry<\/i>, vol. 12, pp. 236-241, 2020. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1038\/s41557-019-0398-3\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1038\/s41557-019-0398-3<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"ITEM-23187-1\">H.S. Rzepa, \"A Double-Twist M\u00f6bius-Aromatic Conformation of [14]Annulene\", <i>Organic Letters<\/i>, vol. 7, pp. 4637-4639, 2005. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1021\/ol0518333\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1021\/ol0518333<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"ITEM-23187-2\">J.J.P. Stewart, \"Optimization of parameters for semiempirical methods VI: more modifications to the NDDO approximations and re-optimization of parameters\", <i>Journal of Molecular Modeling<\/i>, vol. 19, pp. 1-32, 2012. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1007\/s00894-012-1667-x\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1007\/s00894-012-1667-x<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n<\/div> <!-- kcite-section 23187 -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the previous post, I showed the geometries of three large cyclic porphyrins, as part of an article on exploring the aromaticity of large 4n+2 cyclic rings. One of them had been induced into a &#8220;figure-eight&#8221; or lemniscular conformation, as shown below. 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