{"id":16308,"date":"2016-04-22T17:05:07","date_gmt":"2016-04-22T16:05:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=16308"},"modified":"2023-09-17T07:29:49","modified_gmt":"2023-09-17T06:29:49","slug":"deuteronium-deuteroxide-the-why-of-pd-7-435","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=16308","title":{"rendered":"Deuteronium deuteroxide. The why of pD 7.435."},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kcite-section\" kcite-section-id=\"16308\">\n<p>\n\t<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=16118\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Earlier<\/a>, I constructed a possible model of hydronium hydroxide, or H<sub>3<\/sub>O<sup>+<\/sup>.OH<sup>&#8211;&nbsp;<\/sup>One way of assessing the quality of&nbsp;the model is&nbsp;to&nbsp;calculate&nbsp;the free energy difference between it and two normal water molecules&nbsp;and compare&nbsp;the result to&nbsp;the measured&nbsp;difference. Here I apply a further test of the model using isotopes.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\tPure water has pH 7, which means equal concentrations for both [H<sub>3<\/sub>O<sup>+<\/sup>] and &nbsp;[OH<sup>&#8211;<\/sup>] of 10<sup>-7<\/sup>M.&nbsp;Converting this to a free energy one gets&nbsp;&Delta;G<sub>298<\/sub> 19.088 kcal\/mol.&nbsp;Now the pD of pure deuterium oxide is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.madsci.org\/posts\/archives\/2005-08\/1125410589.Ch.r.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">reported<\/a> as 7.435, equivalent to &Delta;G<sub>298<\/sub> 20.274, an isotope effect on the&nbsp;free energy of&nbsp;&Delta;&Delta;G<sub>298 <\/sub>=<strong><span style=\"color:#FF0000;\">1.186<\/span><\/strong> kcal\/mol. How does the theoretical model (&omega;B97XD\/Def2-TZVPPD\/SCRF=water<sup>&Dagger;<\/sup>)&nbsp;previously reported<span id=\"cite_ITEM-16308-0\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-16308-0\">[1]<\/a><\/span>,<span id=\"cite_ITEM-16308-1\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-16308-1\">[2]<\/a><\/span> do? The value obtained is<strong><span style=\"color:#FF0000;\"> 1.215<\/span><\/strong>,<span id=\"cite_ITEM-16308-2\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-16308-2\">[3]<\/a><\/span> an apparent error of only&nbsp;0.029&nbsp;kcal\/mol.&nbsp;I am quite pleased with the close correspondence; at&nbsp;least the model is capable of reporting good isotope effects on the ionisation equilibrium of pure water!\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\tFinally, with some confidence assured, one might apply this to tritonium tritoxide. Tritiated water is so radioactive it would boil in an instant, probably well before its pT could be measured. &Delta;&Delta;G<sub>298<\/sub>&nbsp;is calculated as <strong><span style=\"color:#FF0000;\">1.798<\/span><\/strong> kcal\/mol.&nbsp;Will this estimate ever be challenged by experiment?\n<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>\n\t&Dagger; It is assumed no isotope effect&nbsp;acts on the dielectric constant of water&nbsp;and hence the continuum model used here to model it. In fact the isotope effect on this property is modest; &epsilon;<sub>298<\/sub>&nbsp;= 77.94, compared with 78.36 for normal water.<span id=\"cite_ITEM-16308-3\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-16308-3\">[4]<\/a><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h4>Acknowledgments<\/h4>\n<p>This post has been cross-posted in PDF format at <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.15200\/winn.146139.99408\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Authorea<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h2>References<\/h2>\n    <ol class=\"kcite-bibliography csl-bib-body\"><li id=\"ITEM-16308-0\">H.S. Rzepa, \"H 22 O 11\", 2016. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.14469\/ch\/191999\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.14469\/ch\/191999<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"ITEM-16308-1\">H.S. Rzepa, \"H 22 O 11\", 2016. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.14469\/ch\/191998\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.14469\/ch\/191998<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"ITEM-16308-2\">H. Rzepa, \"Deuteronium deuteroxide; free energy differences.\", 2016. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.14469\/hpc\/407\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.14469\/hpc\/407<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"ITEM-16308-3\">C. Malmberg, \"Dielectric constant of deuterium oxide\", <i>Journal of Research of the National Bureau of Standards<\/i>, vol. 60, pp. 609, 1958. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.6028\/jres.060.060\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.6028\/jres.060.060<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n<\/div> <!-- kcite-section 16308 -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Earlier, I constructed a possible model of hydronium hydroxide, or H3O+.OH&#8211;&nbsp;One way of assessing the quality of&nbsp;the model is&nbsp;to&nbsp;calculate&nbsp;the free energy difference between it and two normal water molecules&nbsp;and compare&nbsp;the result to&nbsp;the measured&nbsp;difference. Here I apply a further test of the model using isotopes. 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