{"id":15295,"date":"2016-01-02T09:53:04","date_gmt":"2016-01-02T09:53:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=15295"},"modified":"2023-09-17T07:15:52","modified_gmt":"2023-09-17T06:15:52","slug":"ive-started-so-ill-finish-mechanism-and-kinetic-isotope-effects-for-protiodecarboxylation-of-indoles","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=15295","title":{"rendered":"I\u2019ve started so I\u2019ll finish. Mechanism and kinetic isotope effects for protiodecarboxylation of indoles."},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kcite-section\" kcite-section-id=\"15295\">\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n    Another mechanistic study we&nbsp;started in&nbsp;1972<span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-0\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-0\">[1]<\/a><\/span> is&nbsp;here 40+ years on&nbsp;subjected to quantum mechanical scrutiny.\n<\/p>\n<p>    <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/decarbox.svg\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Indole diazocoupling\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14967\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/decarbox.svg\" style=\"text-align: justify;\" width=\"440\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n    The kinetics are again complex, the mechanism involving protonation<sup>&Dagger;<\/sup> of the indole carboxylate (by a general acid), followed by the presumption of a zwitterionic Wheland intermediate that then loses carbon dioxide in a second step (blue arrows). Kinetically indistinguishable is a concerted alternative in which both steps are conflated into a concerted but not necessarily synchronous&nbsp;process (red arrows). In 1972, this latter mechanistic alternative was never really considered, iin part because it was not easy to prove or disprove an asynchronous concerted route by experiment. A brief summary of the conclusions:\n<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n        The reaction was found to be catalysed by a general acid.\n    <\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n        But a residual rate at low acid concentration was measured, corresponding to catalysis by water as an acid (shown in the scheme above).\n    <\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n        A deuterium isotope effect of ~2.2-2.7 on the apparent protonation step was observed when the reaction was conducted in D<sub>2<\/sub>O rather than H<sub>2<\/sub>O (the disentangled complex kinetics yielded isotope effects for two other kinetic parameters as well, also in the range 2.0-2.6).\n    <\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n        The isotope effects were found to be insensitive to various substituents on the indole,&nbsp;leading to the final conclusion that isotope effects for proton transfer are little influenced by the symmetry of the process.\n    <\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n    Here, I set out to test some of these forty-year old assumptions; in particular to see if a model can be constructed that reproduces the unusually low value of the primary deuterium kinetic isotope effect, since normally proton transfers to carbon sustain a value closer to 7.\n<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n    Now for the mechanism. Shown below are eight potential models for the process.\n<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n        Model <strong>1<\/strong> is the most basic, with just a single water molecule delivering a proton to the 3-position of the indole and abstracting it from the carboxylic acid group.\n    <\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n        Models <strong>1a<\/strong>, <strong>1b<\/strong> and <strong>1c<\/strong> add a second water as a passive hydrogen bonder.\n    <\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n        Model <strong>2<\/strong> is isomeric to <strong>1a,b,c<\/strong> but the second water now actively participates in the proton relay.\n    <\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n        Model <strong>3<\/strong> replaces the single water molecule with a more acidic proton relay molecule, ethanoic acid (red).\n    <\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n        Models <strong>4<\/strong> and <strong>5<\/strong> augment model <strong>3<\/strong> with one water molecule as well, in two different positions.\n    <\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n        Model <strong>6<\/strong> uses a three-water proton relay with one H-bonding&nbsp;water.\n    <\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n        Model <strong>7<\/strong> uses a two-water proton relay with two H-bonding&nbsp;waters.\n    <\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>    <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/decarbox1.svg\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Indole diazocoupling\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14967\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/decarbox1.svg\" style=\"text-align: justify;\" width=\"440\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n    The results of a B3LYP+D3\/Def2-TZVP\/SCRF=water calculation are collected below in the table. The following conclusions can be drawn:\n<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n        Model <strong>1<\/strong>, with just a single water molecule acting as proton transfer acid\/base reveals a concerted route <em>via<\/em> TS.&nbsp;\n    <\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n        Model <strong>1b<\/strong>, with an extra water acting via a hydrogen bond now changes the mechanism to stepwise via &nbsp;TS1 and &nbsp;TS2, the latter being some 12.6 kcal\/mol lower in energy and hence making &nbsp;TS1 rate determining. The kinetic deuterium isotope&nbsp;effect (KIE) on &nbsp;TS1 of &nbsp;7.27 is much larger than is observed. &nbsp;That for the second step TS2 is negligible.\n    <\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n        Model <strong>2<\/strong>, isomeric with <strong>1b<\/strong>, is lower by&nbsp;4 kcal\/mol, largely due to a more favourable geometry for linear proton transfer. The KIE is getting closer to the observed value as is the free energy barrier&nbsp;(measured as &Delta;G<sup>&Dagger;<\/sup><sub>298 <\/sub>22 kcal\/mol<span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-0\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-0\">[1]<\/a><\/span>).\n    <\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n        Model <strong>3<\/strong> replaces the water proton transfer agent by ethanoic acid, with a significant lowering of the barrier. This constitutes a prediction for protiodecarboxylation in ethanoic acid solutions.\n    <\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n        Models <strong>4<\/strong> and the isomeric 5 now combines models <strong>2<\/strong>+<strong>3<\/strong>, and represents one possibility for general acid catalysis in aqueous ethanoic acid solutions. The KIE is predicted to rise significantly (again, this experiment has not been done).\n    <\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n        Model <strong>7<\/strong> incorporates model 2 (a two-water proton relay) with two additional passive water molecules acting <em>via<\/em> hydrogen bonds. The barrier is converging to the measured value, and the&nbsp;KIE has now dropped below the measured value! As before TS2 is lower (by 6.8 kcal\/mol) than&nbsp;TS1.\n    <\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n        Model <strong>6<\/strong> (below) is isomeric with model <strong>7<\/strong> and incorporates a three-water proton relay with one solvating water,<sup>&dagger;<\/sup> with a predicted KIE higher than model&nbsp;6.\n    <\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>    <img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Indole diazocoupling\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14967\" onclick=\"jmolInitialize('..\/Jmol\/','JmolAppletSigned.jar');jmolSetAppletColor('white');jmolApplet([450,450],'load wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/decarbox-3+1-858.366540.log;frame 13;vectors on;vectors 4;vectors scale 8.0;color vectors green;vibration 6;');\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/decarbox-3+1.jpg\" style=\"text-align: justify;\" width=\"400\" \/><\/p>\n<table border=\"1\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<th>\n                Model\n            <\/th>\n<th>\n                &Delta;G<sup>&Dagger;<\/sup><sub>298<\/sub>\n            <\/th>\n<th>\n                dataDOIs\n            <\/th>\n<th>\n                Mechanism\n            <\/th>\n<th>\n                k<sup>H<\/sup>\/k<sup>D<\/sup> <span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-1\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-1\">[2]<\/a><\/span>\n            <\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n                <strong>1<\/strong>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                33.8\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                <span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-2\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-2\">[3]<\/a><\/span>,<span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-3\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-3\">[4]<\/a><\/span>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                TS<span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-4\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-4\">[5]<\/a><\/span>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                9.88\n            <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n                <strong>1a<\/strong>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                35.6\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                <span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-5\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-5\">[6]<\/a><\/span>,<span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-6\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-6\">[7]<\/a><\/span>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                &#8211;\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                &#8211;\n            <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n                <strong>1b<\/strong>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                33.8 (21.2)\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                <span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-5\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-5\">[6]<\/a><\/span>,<span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-7\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-7\">[8]<\/a><\/span>,<span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-8\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-8\">[9]<\/a><\/span>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                TS1,TS2<span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-9\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-9\">[10]<\/a><\/span>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                7.27 (1.05)\n            <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n                <strong>1c<\/strong>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                33.9\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                <span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-5\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-5\">[6]<\/a><\/span>,<span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-10\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-10\">[11]<\/a><\/span>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                &#8211;\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                &#8211;\n            <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n                <strong>2<\/strong>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                29.9\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                <span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-5\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-5\">[6]<\/a><\/span>,<span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-11\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-11\">[12]<\/a><\/span>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                TS1,TS2<span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-12\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-12\">[13]<\/a><\/span>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                4.20\n            <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n                <strong>3<\/strong>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                20.9\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                <span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-13\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-13\">[14]<\/a><\/span>,<span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-14\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-14\">[15]<\/a><\/span>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                TS1,TS2<span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-15\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-15\">[16]<\/a><\/span>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                4.29\n            <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n                <strong>4<\/strong>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                25.7\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                <span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-16\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-16\">[17]<\/a><\/span>,<span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-17\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-17\">[18]<\/a><\/span>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                TS1,TS2<span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-18\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-18\">[19]<\/a><\/span>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                &#8211;\n            <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n                <strong>5<\/strong>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                24.4\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                <span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-16\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-16\">[17]<\/a><\/span>,<span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-19\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-19\">[20]<\/a><\/span>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                TS1,TS2<span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-20\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-20\">[21]<\/a><\/span>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                8.55\n            <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n                <strong>6<\/strong>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                23.9\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                <span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-21\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-21\">[22]<\/a><\/span>,<span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-22\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-22\">[23]<\/a><\/span>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                TS1,TS2\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                5.66\n            <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n                <strong>7<\/strong>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                24.3 (<strong>8<\/strong>:17.9)\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                <span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-21\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-21\">[22]<\/a><\/span>,<span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-23\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-23\">[24]<\/a><\/span>,<span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-24\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-24\">[25]<\/a><\/span>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                TS1,TS2<span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-25\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-25\">[26]<\/a><\/span>\n            <\/td>\n<td>\n                1.44\n            <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<hr \/>\n<p>    These models show that the arrangements of the solvation and proton-relay components of the mechanism are crucial to understanding the kinetic isotope effects induced by deuterium. The partition function ratios&nbsp;responsible for the&nbsp;KIE emerge<span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-1\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-1\">[2]<\/a><\/span> as&nbsp;a&nbsp;complex function of the structure&nbsp;and so the&nbsp;KIE itself provides a particularly sensitive probe of these structures.&nbsp;This exploration is not stochastical in nature; &nbsp;there are clearly many more variations in which even more than four water molecules could be used in the model. One would take the Boltzmann population\/weight of each pose and use these to predict the statistical probability of properties such as the KIE. Working in the other direction and from&nbsp;the results shown in the table, a population of ~25% of model <strong>6<\/strong> and&nbsp;75% of model <strong>7<\/strong> would give a&nbsp;KIE in agreement with experiment. A more complete&nbsp;stochastical model would no doubt include many more solvation structures.<\/p>\n<p>    In 1972, transition state models could only be slowly and painfully constructed by accumulating kinetic data and making many assumptions. Quantum computation provides a more systematic and rational way in which to base the assumptions. What has emerged for this reaction is that the rate determining protonation of a 3-carboxyindole prior to its decarboxylation is largely defined by the solvation structures that accumulate in the transition state; &nbsp;we are really learning about solvation here rather than just proton transfer. The two techniques together, experimental kinetics and quantum chemical modelling, are true symbiotes in&nbsp;each informing the other.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>    <sup>&Dagger;<\/sup>Here is a crystal structure which shows an O-H hydrogen bond to the &pi;-face of the indole 5-ring, indicating the indole &pi;-system is basic enough to hydrogen-bond with an acidic proton.<span id=\"cite_ITEM-15295-26\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-15295-26\">[27]<\/a><\/span>&nbsp;<sup>&dagger;<\/sup>This water molecule has an additional role, which I will describe in a separate post.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h4>Acknowledgments<\/h4>\n<p>This post has been cross-posted in PDF format at <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.15200\/winn.145337.72491\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Authorea<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h2>References<\/h2>\n    <ol class=\"kcite-bibliography csl-bib-body\"><li id=\"ITEM-15295-0\">B.C. Challis, and H.S. Rzepa, \"Heteroaromatic hydrogen exchange reactions. Part 9. 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Rzepa, \"C 9 H 15 N 1 O 6\", 2015. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.14469\/ch\/191752\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.14469\/ch\/191752<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"ITEM-15295-25\">H.S. Rzepa, \"C9H15NO6\", 2016. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.14469\/ch\/191756\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.14469\/ch\/191756<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"ITEM-15295-26\">Ibrahim, Abeer A.., Khaledi, Hamid., Hassandarvish, Pouya., Ali, Hapipah Mohd., and Karimian, Hamed., \"CCDC 939908: Experimental Crystal Structure Determination\", 2014. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.5517\/cc10k1m7\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.5517\/cc10k1m7<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n<\/div> <!-- kcite-section 15295 -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Another mechanistic study we&nbsp;started in&nbsp;1972 is&nbsp;here 40+ years on&nbsp;subjected to quantum mechanical scrutiny. The kinetics are again complex, the mechanism involving protonation&Dagger; of the indole carboxylate (by a general acid), followed by the presumption of a zwitterionic Wheland intermediate that then loses carbon dioxide in a second step (blue arrows). 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