{"id":14537,"date":"2015-09-05T09:32:09","date_gmt":"2015-09-05T08:32:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=14537"},"modified":"2023-09-17T07:23:23","modified_gmt":"2023-09-17T06:23:23","slug":"%cf%80-resonance-in-amides-a-crystallographic-reality-check","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=14537","title":{"rendered":"\u03c0-Resonance in amides: a crystallographic reality check."},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kcite-section\" kcite-section-id=\"14537\">\n<p>\n\tThe &pi;-resonance in amides famously helped <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=3802\">Pauling to his propos<\/a>al&nbsp;of a helical structure for proteins. Here I explore some geometric properties of amides related to the C-N bond and the torsions about it.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Scheme\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Amide-def.jpg\" width=\"400\" \/>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\tThe key aspect of amides is that a lone pair of electrons on the nitrogen can conjugate with the C=O carbonyl only if the&nbsp;lone pair orbital is parallel to the C-O &pi;-system. We can define this with the O=C-N-R torsion angle (and equate 0 or 180&deg; with the p-orbitals being parallel). In the above definition, each R can be either 4-coordinate C (to avoid alternative conjugations) or H and the C-N bond is specified as being cyclic. As usual the R-factor is &lt; 5%, no errors, no disorder.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\tFirst, the C-N torsion, which adopts values of either 0 or 180&deg;. Notice that whilst the <em>anti<\/em> R-group shows no more than about 20&deg; deviation from 180&deg;, it does have a small tail tending towards longer C-N distances of &gt;1.4&Aring;. The hotspot is for the <em>syn<\/em> R-group. &nbsp;Here there is a strong trend that as the dihedral deviates from&nbsp;0&deg; the C-N bond very clearly elongates. As the&nbsp;&pi;-&pi; overlap decreases, the bond elongates from the hot spot value of ~1.34&Aring; to 1.41&Aring; at 50&deg;. The greater propensity of the <em>syn<\/em>-R to twist may be because it incurs more steric hindrance or&nbsp;perhaps&nbsp;because we have defined the C-N bond to be part of a cycle.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Scheme\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Amide-torsions.jpg\" width=\"440\" \/>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\tNext, we plot the C-N distance against the torsion R-N-C-R&#39;, which defines how planar the nitrogen is. A value of&nbsp;180&deg; is planar and the hot-spot is here. But as the planarity decreases down to almost tetrahedral (110&deg;) the C-N bond elongates to &nbsp;1.41&Aring;. Notice one rather intriguing aspect; &nbsp;from&nbsp;180&deg; to&nbsp;160&deg; or so, there is little response from the &nbsp;C-N bond, but the elongation really accelerates from&nbsp;140&deg; to&nbsp;110&deg;. A little twisting hardly affects the&nbsp;&pi;-&pi; overlap, but&nbsp;it really starts to matter for twists of &gt;50&deg;.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Scheme\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Amide-torsions2.jpg\" width=\"440\" \/>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\tFinally a plot of the C-N vs the C-O distances. As the C-N increases, the C-O contracts, this being&nbsp;a nice summary of the&nbsp;&pi; resonance in amides.&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Scheme\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Amide-torsions3.jpg\" width=\"440\" \/>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\tWe have not seen any surprises, but this statistical exploration of crystal structures at least puts some numbers on the changes in bond lengths as a result of conjugative resonance.\n<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h4>Acknowledgments<\/h4>\n<p>This post has been cross-posted in PDF format at <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.15200\/winn.144212.25356\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Authorea<\/a>.<\/p>\n<!-- kcite active, but no citations found -->\n<\/div> <!-- kcite-section 14537 -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The &pi;-resonance in amides famously helped Pauling to his proposal&nbsp;of a helical structure for proteins. 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