{"id":14423,"date":"2015-07-25T15:16:51","date_gmt":"2015-07-25T14:16:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=14423"},"modified":"2023-09-17T07:22:32","modified_gmt":"2023-09-17T06:22:32","slug":"intermolecular-atom-atom-bonds-in-crystals-the-o-o-case","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=14423","title":{"rendered":"Intermolecular atom-atom bonds in crystals? The O&#8230;O case."},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kcite-section\" kcite-section-id=\"14423\">\n<p>\n\tI recently followed this bloggers trail; <a href=\"http:\/\/pipeline.corante.com\/archives\/2015\/07\/24\/philosophical_investigations.php\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">link1<\/a> &rarr; <a href=\"http:\/\/wavefunction.fieldofscience.com\/2015\/06\/the-fundamental-philosophical-dilemma.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">link2<\/a> to arrive at this delightful short commentary on atom-atom bonds in crystals<span id=\"cite_ITEM-14423-0\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-14423-0\">[1]<\/a><\/span> by Jack Dunitz. Here he discusses that age-old question (to chemists), what is a bond? Even almost 100 years after Gilbert Lewis&#8217; famous analysis,<span id=\"cite_ITEM-14423-1\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-14423-1\">[2]<\/a><\/span> we continue to ponder this question. Indeed, quite a debate&nbsp;on this topic broke out in a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=14272\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">recent post here<\/a>. My eye was caught by one&nbsp;example in Jack&#39;s article: &quot;<em>The close stacking of planar anions, as occurs in salts of croconic acid&nbsp;&#8230;far from producing a lowering of the crystal energy, this stacking interaction in itself leads to an increase by several thousand kJ\u2005mol<sup>&minus;1<\/sup>&nbsp;arising from Coulombic repulsion between the doubly negatively charged anions<\/em>&quot; I thought I might explore this point a bit further in this post.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\tA search query of the Cambridge structure database was defined as&nbsp;below. Two non-bonded oxygen atoms are each attached to one carbon, each oxygen was defined as having <strong>one bonded atom<\/strong>&nbsp;(to carbon) and each assigned one negative charge. Addition of the usual&nbsp;constraints of R &lt; 0.05, no errors, no disorder and specifying an <strong>intermolecular<\/strong> search produced 103 hits with the distance distribution shown below.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/OO-query.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"OO-query\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14424\" height=\"119\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/OO-query.jpg\" width=\"276\" \/><\/a>\n<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>\n\t<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/O-O.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"O-O\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14425\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/O-O.jpg\" width=\"440\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/O-O.jpg 725w, https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/O-O-300x154.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 725px) 100vw, 725px\" \/><\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\tFirstly, you should be aware that the van der Waals radius for oxygen is ~1.5&Aring;, and so any contacts less than 3.0&Aring; become interesting. What becomes particularly exciting&nbsp;is the distinct cluster at ~2.5&Aring;. Could these be ~30 examples of close encounters&nbsp;of the type noted by Dunitz? Well, a control search has to be done, this time for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=13252\">O-H-O<\/a> motifs, with each OH distance plotted as below:\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/OHO.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"OHO\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14427\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/OHO.jpg\" width=\"440\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/OHO.jpg 719w, https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/OHO-300x233.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 719px) 100vw, 719px\" \/><\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\tThe hot-spot occurs when both OH distances are equal at ~1.22&Aring;, or an O&#8230;O separation close to 2.45&Aring;. Time to quote Dunitz again &quot;<em>This large destabilization is, of course, more than compensated in the overall energy balance by the large stabilization arising from Coulombic interactions of the croconate anions with the surrounding cations.<\/em>&quot; In this case of course, the cation is a proton, residing at the half way point between the two oxygens. So two oxygens can indeed approach ~0.5&Aring; closer than the sum of the vdw radii if a proton sits in-between them.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\tWhat do we learn? Well, firstly that one should always have a reality check of&nbsp;the results of any crystal structure search. The search did specify that the oxygens be non-bonded but also that they should both carry a negative charge and that both should only have one bonded atom. That should in theory at least have excluded any C-O-H-O-C structures, so why were about 30 such examples found? I can only speculate here, but recollect that 50 years ago when the CSD was founded, hydrogen atoms were rarely identified from the electron density. They were instead placed or &quot;idealised&quot; to where they might be expected. Nowadays any contentious hydrogens are almost always located rather than idealised, but clearly their status as <em>bona-fide<\/em> atoms is not quite so strong as the rest of the periodic table. So in at least some of these 30 examples with short O&#8230;O contacts, we might expect there to lurk a (possibly unrecognised) proton. But one never knows, there may be some real examples of O&#8230;O contacts with no such proton intervening. Now these really would be interesting.\n<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>\n\t<strong>Postscript<\/strong>. F is isoelectronic with O(-); below is the same search as defined above, but for non-bonded CF&#8230;FC approaches. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/F-F.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"F---F\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14432\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/F-F.jpg\" width=\"440\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/F-F.jpg 694w, https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/F-F-300x192.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 694px) 100vw, 694px\" \/><\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\tThe vdw radius of F is 1.45&Aring; hence any non-bonded contact &lt;2.9&Aring; is worth taking a look at. But notice the small cluster of about 10 compounds for which the value is ~2.15&Aring;. The F-H-F plot shows a hot spot at ~2.3 for the F&#8230;F separation, but there are zero hits for CF-H-FC. So these ten hits are indeed tantalising.\n<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h4>Acknowledgments<\/h4>\n<p>This post has been cross-posted in PDF format at <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.15200\/winn.143981.16225\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Authorea<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h2>References<\/h2>\n    <ol class=\"kcite-bibliography csl-bib-body\"><li id=\"ITEM-14423-0\">J.D. Dunitz, \"Intermolecular atom\u2013atom bonds in crystals?\", <i>IUCrJ<\/i>, vol. 2, pp. 157-158, 2015. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1107\/s2052252515002006\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1107\/s2052252515002006<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"ITEM-14423-1\">G.N. Lewis, \"THE ATOM AND THE MOLECULE.\", <i>Journal of the American Chemical Society<\/i>, vol. 38, pp. 762-785, 1916. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1021\/ja02261a002\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1021\/ja02261a002<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n<\/div> <!-- kcite-section 14423 -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I recently followed this bloggers trail; link1 &rarr; link2 to arrive at this delightful short commentary on atom-atom bonds in crystals by Jack Dunitz. Here he discusses that age-old question (to chemists), what is a bond? Even almost 100 years after Gilbert Lewis&#8217; famous analysis, we continue to ponder this question. 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