{"id":13488,"date":"2015-02-28T09:33:47","date_gmt":"2015-02-28T09:33:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=13488"},"modified":"2015-03-02T10:11:55","modified_gmt":"2015-03-02T10:11:55","slug":"how-many-water-molecules-does-it-take-to-ionise-hi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ch.ic.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=13488","title":{"rendered":"How many water molecules does it take to ionise HI?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kcite-section\" kcite-section-id=\"13488\">\n<p>Why is this post orphaned from the <a title=\"How many water molecules does it take to ionise HF and HBr?\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=13458\" target=\"_blank\">previous<\/a>? In order to have the opportunity of noting that treating iodine computationally can be a little different from the procedures used for F, Cl and Br.<\/p>\n<p>As the nuclear charge increases proceeding down the periodic table, the inner electron shells start becoming <a title=\"Why is mercury a liquid at room temperatures?\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=12715\" target=\"_blank\">relativistic<\/a>. Iodine is the first halogen where this might really start to matter.<sup>*<\/sup> There are two ways in which one can compute molecules with I; the first adopts the same procedure as for the earlier halogens, whereby <strong>all<\/strong> the electrons are described by basis functions (called an all-electron basis). This effect does not really include the effects of relativistic contractions on the inner (1s) shell unless special relativistic Hamiltonians are also used. The second replaces these inner cores with a pseudopotential, and this does incorporate some of the relativistic effects. To find out how much this might matter, I have included both types:<\/p>\n<table border=\"1\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<th><\/th>\n<th colspan=\"2\">I<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<th>n<\/th>\n<th>I-H<\/th>\n<th>H-O<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>1.637<sup>\u2020<\/sup>\/1.623<sup>\u2021<\/sup><\/td>\n<td>2.032\/2.060<span id=\"cite_ITEM-13488-0\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-13488-0\">[1]<\/a><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>2<\/td>\n<td>1.657\/1.641<\/td>\n<td>1.863\/1.889<span id=\"cite_ITEM-13488-1\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-13488-1\">[2]<\/a><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>1.696\/1.675<\/td>\n<td>1.641\/1.670<span id=\"cite_ITEM-13488-2\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-13488-2\">[3]<\/a><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>4<\/td>\n<td>\u00a02.316\/2.304<\/td>\n<td>1.014\/1.015<span id=\"cite_ITEM-13488-3\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-13488-3\">[4]<\/a><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><sup>\u2020<\/sup>Non-relativistic calculation with an all-electron 6-311G(d,p) basis on I, 6-311++G(2d,2p) on O and H. <sup>\u2021<\/sup>Def2-TZVPPD basis, with pseudopotential just on I.<\/p>\n<p>As with bromine, iodine shows a precipitous ionisation when the <strong><span style=\"color: #993366;\">4th water molecule<\/span><\/strong> is added. In the previous post, I compared this with pKa values, and a <a title=\"How many water molecules does it take to ionise HF and HBr?\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ch.imperial.ac.uk\/rzepa\/blog\/?p=13458&amp;cpage=1#comment-162075\" target=\"_blank\">comment<\/a>\u00a0posted there reminded us that a pKa is measured for macroscopic bulk water and that all sorts of new effects due to free energy\/entropy, continuum solvation and much else will take hold. But qualitatively at least, the ionisation of HI in a gas-phase cluster of water molecules seems to match the bulk properties. Relativistic effects do not appear to play a major role here.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><sup>*<\/sup>Whilst such effects can be prominent for I, arguably they actually start at Cl <em>via<\/em> an effect called spin-orbit (SO) coupling. This manifests in the calculation of chemical magnetic shieldings. If one uses standard GIAO NMR theories, one can calculate shieldings for e.g. C pretty accurately. But with Cl, the shieldings may be SO-perturbed by about 3ppm, with Br it&#8217;s about 12 ppm and with I it reaches 50 ppm!<span id=\"cite_ITEM-13488-4\" name=\"citation\"><a href=\"#ITEM-13488-4\">[5]<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<h2>References<\/h2>\n    <ol class=\"kcite-bibliography csl-bib-body\"><li id=\"ITEM-13488-0\">H.S. Rzepa, \"H 3 I 1 O 1\", 2015. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.14469\/ch\/190924\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.14469\/ch\/190924<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"ITEM-13488-1\">H.S. Rzepa, \"H 5 I 1 O 2\", 2015. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.14469\/ch\/190921\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.14469\/ch\/190921<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"ITEM-13488-2\">H.S. Rzepa, \"H 7 I 1 O 3\", 2015. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.14469\/ch\/190925\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.14469\/ch\/190925<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"ITEM-13488-3\">H.S. Rzepa, \"H 9 I 1 O 4\", 2015. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.14469\/ch\/190927\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.14469\/ch\/190927<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"ITEM-13488-4\">D.C. Braddock, and H.S. Rzepa, \"Structural Reassignment of Obtusallenes V, VI, and VII by GIAO-Based Density Functional Prediction\", <i>Journal of Natural Products<\/i>, vol. 71, pp. 728-730, 2008. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1021\/np0705918\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1021\/np0705918<\/a>\n\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n<\/div> <!-- kcite-section 13488 -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Why is this post orphaned from the previous? In order to have the opportunity of noting that treating iodine computationally can be a little different from the procedures used for F, Cl and Br. As the nuclear charge increases proceeding down the periodic table, the inner electron shells start becoming relativistic. 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